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Critique d’une ode latine adress\u00e9e \u00e0 Ozanam par Materne.<\/em><\/p>\n

Lyon, <\/em>1830 (?).<\/em><\/p>\n

Pulchre! Bene! Recte! <\/em>Ainsi dit le Flatteur dans Horace; ainsi dit aussi Ozanam \u00e0 Materne. Mais Ozanam n’est pas flatteur, mais Ozanam est sinc\u00e8re, mais Ozanam parle comme un ami \u00e0 son ami. Il sera donc censor amicus. <\/em>Cependant avant tout il est oblig\u00e9 de dire que ton ode lui a fait beaucoup de plaisir.<\/p>\n

1re<\/sup> strophe. 1\u00b0 Je n’aime pas beaucoup [ces] Nigrescat, <\/em>mal plac\u00e9s, l’un \u00e0 la fin d’un vers, l’autre \u00e0 la c\u00e9sure : cette consonnance me d\u00e9pla\u00eet. Je ne sais pas si elle ne te d\u00e9plairait pas aussi : lis les deux vers \u00e0 haute voix, je m’en rapporte \u00e0 ton oreille d\u00e9licate. 2\u00b0 Je vois que dans les deux derniers vers on ne voit pas le sujet de la phrase. Il est absent \u00e0 l’appel du grammairien. Je crois donc qu’au lieu de Eheu <\/em>(exclamation peut-\u00eatre un peu trop forte) tu devrais mettre campi.<\/em><\/p>\n

2e<\/sup> strophe. 1\u00b0 Spissa <\/em>et languet <\/em>ne font pas antith\u00e8se, il faudrait rarescit. <\/em>2\u00b0 Je n’aime pas la rime ingratum, esculentum. <\/em>3\u00b0 l’\u00e9lision<\/span>1<\/sup><\/a><\/span>… esculentum <\/em>quoique admissible, rendrait \u00e0 la strophe un grand service en disparaissant : le vers serait bien plus harmonieux. 4\u00b0<\/sup> J’ignore si esculentum<\/em> est bien po\u00e9tique. Je ne le condamne pas : je doute. 5\u00b0 Les deux derniers vers me paraissent bien obscurs, l’hyperbole un peu outr\u00e9e.<\/p>\n

3e<\/sup> strophe. tondus, inclusus, <\/em>etc. Ces deux us <\/em>de suite me d\u00e9plaisent quelque peu. Je n’aime pas non plus Boatu <\/em>rejet\u00e9 \u00e0 la fin du second vers, o\u00f9 on ne l’attend plus. Cependant on pourrait l’y laisser parce qu’il fait image. Les deux derniers vers sont fort jolis.<\/p>\n

4e<\/sup> strophe. La v\u00e9rit\u00e9 doit r\u00e9gner jusque dans la po\u00e9sie. Or cette strophe flatteuse en a menti. Ergo … <\/em>Mais passons au m\u00e9rite litt\u00e9raire. Je ne condamnerai pas le qu\u00e6so <\/em>qui para\u00eet un peu cheville, le reste est parfait. La petite phrase incidente est d’une grande d\u00e9licatesse. Tu t’entends bien en flatterie.<\/p>\n

5e<\/sup> strophe. On ne voit pas de suite ce que signifie timore flaccum et maronem. <\/em>Je te reprocherai aussi les deux \u00e9lisions de second vers, surtout celle de la c\u00e9sure, quoique admissible \u00e0 la rigueur. Il vaudrait peut-\u00eatre mieux qu’elles n’y fussent pas; du reste cette strophe est toute horatienne.<\/p>\n

6e<\/sup> strophe. Vel <\/em>au 3e<\/sup> vers est mal plac\u00e9. Anne moreris <\/em>a l’air cheville. Le petit vers adonique dans mes id\u00e9es doit \u00eatre le couronnement de la phrase. J’admire ici ton adresse \u00e0 rendre les choses les plus communes.<\/p>\n

M\u00eame remarque sur la 7e<\/sup>. Seulement aut <\/em>est mal plac\u00e9 apr\u00e8s vitis.<\/em><\/p>\n

8e<\/sup> strophe. Je chicanerai sur le Pareas <\/em>qui cheville ton vers. Pourquoi Pareas? <\/em>Je ne veux pas te tuer, ce terme est trop fort. J’aime assez ton frustum vituli tenellum <\/em>et ton ceres alba.<\/em><\/p>\n

9e<\/sup> strophe. Je n’aime pas les \u00e9lisions. Je voudrais neu <\/em>au lieu de non. <\/em>Je crois que ce serait plus latin.<\/p>\n

Je crois du reste que ton ode sera excellente avec quelques petits changements; elle est bien horatienne. D’ailleurs mes conseils n’emportent pas avec eux l’obligation de les suivre. Chacun a son jugement propre. La critique est un secours et pas une entrave, on en profite sans s’y astreindre. Ce serait bien mal fait \u00e0 moi de me piquer de ce que tu ne te soumettrais pas \u00e0 mes d\u00e9cisions : sententia Ozanami non est motivum infallibile judicandi. <\/em>Adieu.<\/p>\n

Ton condisciple et ami,<\/p>\n

A.-F. OZANAM.<\/p>\n

P. S. \u2014 Si je t’ai fait si longtems attendre cette lettre, c’est pour une raison que tu sauras ce soir ou demain. J’aurai quelque chose \u00e0 te remettre. Je voulais tout donner \u00e0 la fois.<\/p>\n

Au dos : Pour M. Auguste Louis Materne; l’Illustrissime seigneur.<\/em>
\nOriginal: Archives Laporte.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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Je n'\u00e9tais nullement f\u00e2ch\u00e9 contre toi car je pensais bien que d'excel\u00adlentes raisons te retenaient sans doute, mais je trouvais que nous \u00e9tions tous deux bien\u2026","rel":"","context":"Dans "Lettres de Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Ozanam"","block_context":{"text":"Lettres de Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Ozanam","link":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/category\/lettres-de-frederic-ozanam\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":104307,"url":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/frederic-ozanam-lettre-0017-a-auguste-materne\/","url_meta":{"origin":104298,"position":2},"title":"Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Ozanam, Lettre 0017. A Auguste Materne","author":"Francisco Javier Fern\u00e1ndez Chento","date":"16\/09\/2016","format":false,"excerpt":"Il encourage Materne \u00e0 choisir la carri\u00e8re d'avocat. Force de l'amiti\u00e9 chr\u00e9tienne. Lyon, 14 juin 1830. Mon cher Materne, J'ai re\u00e7u ta derni\u00e8re lettre et tes raisons en faveur du commerce m'ont paru, sinon convaincantes, du moins tr\u00e8s fortes. Je suis n\u00e9anmoins toujours du m\u00eame avis. 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Mon \u00e2me a \u00e9t\u00e9 bris\u00e9e de douleur en apprenant que la famille de mon ami, une\u2026","rel":"","context":"Dans "Lettres de Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Ozanam"","block_context":{"text":"Lettres de Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Ozanam","link":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/category\/lettres-de-frederic-ozanam\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":104315,"url":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/frederic-ozanam-lettre-0008-a-auguste-materne\/","url_meta":{"origin":104298,"position":4},"title":"Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Ozanam, Lettre 0008. 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Ce bavard d'Ozanam a la langue si longue que, ne pouvant causer avec ses amis absents, il veut toujours les ennuyer de ses assommants propos! \u00bb Ainsi disait\u2026","rel":"","context":"Dans "Lettres de Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Ozanam"","block_context":{"text":"Lettres de Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Ozanam","link":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/category\/lettres-de-frederic-ozanam\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":105056,"url":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/frederic-ozanam-lettre-0035-a-auguste-materne\/","url_meta":{"origin":104298,"position":5},"title":"Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Ozanam, Lettre 0035. 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Je me suis acquitt\u00e9 de ta commission pour Fortoul; je lui\u2026","rel":"","context":"Dans "Lettres de Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Ozanam"","block_context":{"text":"Lettres de Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Ozanam","link":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/category\/lettres-de-frederic-ozanam\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2016\/07\/cartas-federico-ozanam.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/104298","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=104298"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/104298\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/189776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=104298"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=104298"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/vincentians.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=104298"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}